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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://castironbalcony.media2.org/2006/07/02/ohhhhh-moi-gourd/comment-page-1/#comment-951</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 08:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The show is just another forum for widespread attitudes, which are pretty regrettable. Many people say it&#039;s a good thing as a lot of gen Yers are now discussing the ethics of the situation. Perhaps a few good patriarchy-blamers of the future are being generated as we speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The show is just another forum for widespread attitudes, which are pretty regrettable. Many people say it&#8217;s a good thing as a lot of gen Yers are now discussing the ethics of the situation. Perhaps a few good patriarchy-blamers of the future are being generated as we speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Gianna</title>
		<link>http://castironbalcony.media2.org/2006/07/02/ohhhhh-moi-gourd/comment-page-1/#comment-949</link>
		<dc:creator>Gianna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2006 02:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i can&#039;t decide about the show&#039;s level of culpability. i have been feeling that the show can&#039;t be blamed for producing the behavior, rather that it is just a stage to play out behaviors that occur in reality. and that society has far more responsiblity than the one show. but then, Kate reminds me--I did wonder if the show hadn&#039;t inadvertently elicited this behavior by having just previously run that silly &quot;dare&quot; (forcing Camilla to try to kiss Ash against his will while his dare was to not be kissed. given he was oblivious to Camilla&#039;s motivation, i&#039;m sure this would&#039;ve given Ash&#039;s inner caveman the impression she was sexually interested in him. it&#039;s quite possible from a psych perspective that he acted the ape as a direct result. so....maybe the show is guilty of provocation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t decide about the show&#8217;s level of culpability. i have been feeling that the show can&#8217;t be blamed for producing the behavior, rather that it is just a stage to play out behaviors that occur in reality. and that society has far more responsiblity than the one show. but then, Kate reminds me&#8211;I did wonder if the show hadn&#8217;t inadvertently elicited this behavior by having just previously run that silly &#8220;dare&#8221; (forcing Camilla to try to kiss Ash against his will while his dare was to not be kissed. given he was oblivious to Camilla&#8217;s motivation, i&#8217;m sure this would&#8217;ve given Ash&#8217;s inner caveman the impression she was sexually interested in him. it&#8217;s quite possible from a psych perspective that he acted the ape as a direct result. so&#8230;.maybe the show is guilty of provocation?</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
		<link>http://castironbalcony.media2.org/2006/07/02/ohhhhh-moi-gourd/comment-page-1/#comment-948</link>
		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jul 2006 00:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really curious as to what the producers of BB would have to see &amp; hear contestants planning/clearly working towards before they would intervene. Would they step in and prevent a murder? What if it was &#039;just a bit of biffo&#039; between two blokes?

And why on earth do they think it&#039;s acceptable to &#039;dare&#039; her to kiss all the housemates in an hour? Do they think they are at the year 9 social?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really curious as to what the producers of BB would have to see &amp; hear contestants planning/clearly working towards before they would intervene. Would they step in and prevent a murder? What if it was &#8216;just a bit of biffo&#8217; between two blokes?</p>
<p>And why on earth do they think it&#8217;s acceptable to &#8216;dare&#8217; her to kiss all the housemates in an hour? Do they think they are at the year 9 social?</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
		<link>http://castironbalcony.media2.org/2006/07/02/ohhhhh-moi-gourd/comment-page-1/#comment-943</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2006 00:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I too feel the full rainbow of feelings for this one.  
I was furious at having obnoxious dickheads yet again paraded as acceptable on our screens. 
I had indignance for the Qld Premier for whining that THIS particular &#039;American rubbish&#039; (becuase that&#039;s a new &#039;plague&#039; for us) should be taken off (hello old fart) and then finshing his lovely 360 with a final comment days later on the producers of course being responsible folk.  
I felt for the girl&#039;s clear cornering in her situation of being caught amongst a &#039;She shouldn&#039;t have worn a short skirt&#039; mob.  
And I cried for our culture that we have Gretel Lobotomy Colleen to guide them all through this.  
I have to hold back my feminist-equalitist thoughts about the whole series lest I become catatonic becuase I can&#039;t decide which rant to start with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I too feel the full rainbow of feelings for this one.<br />
I was furious at having obnoxious dickheads yet again paraded as acceptable on our screens.<br />
I had indignance for the Qld Premier for whining that THIS particular &#8216;American rubbish&#8217; (becuase that&#8217;s a new &#8216;plague&#8217; for us) should be taken off (hello old fart) and then finshing his lovely 360 with a final comment days later on the producers of course being responsible folk.<br />
I felt for the girl&#8217;s clear cornering in her situation of being caught amongst a &#8216;She shouldn&#8217;t have worn a short skirt&#8217; mob.<br />
And I cried for our culture that we have Gretel Lobotomy Colleen to guide them all through this.<br />
I have to hold back my feminist-equalitist thoughts about the whole series lest I become catatonic becuase I can&#8217;t decide which rant to start with.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://castironbalcony.media2.org/2006/07/02/ohhhhh-moi-gourd/comment-page-1/#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 03:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad that even all the blogoversy over this was not enough to make me watch BB last night.  If I had seen her apologising to those jerks I&#039;d have thrown something at the screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad that even all the blogoversy over this was not enough to make me watch BB last night.  If I had seen her apologising to those jerks I&#8217;d have thrown something at the screen.</p>
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		<title>By: kate</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jul 2006 02:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also gather that it was 15 hours after the assult that the neanderthals were removed from the house. Coz ya know it&#039;s ok to leave a person locked up in the house with the two people who&#039;ve attacked her.

It&#039;s really hard to take in, when you&#039;ve been assulted by someone you know and trust, that they really are that kind of prick. I&#039;m not surprised by her reaction, but I&#039;m sure the boys lawyers are rubbing their hands in glee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also gather that it was 15 hours after the assult that the neanderthals were removed from the house. Coz ya know it&#8217;s ok to leave a person locked up in the house with the two people who&#8217;ve attacked her.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s really hard to take in, when you&#8217;ve been assulted by someone you know and trust, that they really are that kind of prick. I&#8217;m not surprised by her reaction, but I&#8217;m sure the boys lawyers are rubbing their hands in glee.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TimT, I don&#039;t agree with this take on it at all, even though you and many other sensible people are saying BB should/might be axed; I think the network execs are rubbing their hands with glee at the controversy. I think it&#039;s the sort of thing they wanted. You can&#039;t buy this kind of publicity, and is the average BB watcher going to say &quot;Ewwww, that&#039;s such bad taste!&quot;? Ahem. 

After all, they got us watching, didn&#039;t they? and our house has been a BB-free zone so far. 

Saint: &#039;Fraid so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TimT, I don&#8217;t agree with this take on it at all, even though you and many other sensible people are saying BB should/might be axed; I think the network execs are rubbing their hands with glee at the controversy. I think it&#8217;s the sort of thing they wanted. You can&#8217;t buy this kind of publicity, and is the average BB watcher going to say &#8220;Ewwww, that&#8217;s such bad taste!&#8221;? Ahem. </p>
<p>After all, they got us watching, didn&#8217;t they? and our house has been a BB-free zone so far. </p>
<p>Saint: &#8216;Fraid so.</p>
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		<title>By: TimT</title>
		<link>http://castironbalcony.media2.org/2006/07/02/ohhhhh-moi-gourd/comment-page-1/#comment-928</link>
		<dc:creator>TimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 22:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The show should be axed, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s going to happen; Channel Ten have probably got too many advertisement deals for that to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The show should be axed, but I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going to happen; Channel Ten have probably got too many advertisement deals for that to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Desert Pea</title>
		<link>http://castironbalcony.media2.org/2006/07/02/ohhhhh-moi-gourd/comment-page-1/#comment-927</link>
		<dc:creator>Desert Pea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 16:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t seen the episode, only read the account.  Are you really suprised that she ends up apologising?  If she demonises them, she&#039;ll become the sport of media for months to come (case in point - the NRL versus young woman who agreed to an intimate moment with one player and ended up with several members of the team).

I&#039;m actually impressed that she had the where withall to say &quot;That&#039;s not cool&quot; - instead of screaming blue bloody murder - Come to think of it, shame she didn&#039;t give him a decent bite to think about.

But here&#039;s my issue.  The two rock apes played out this scene  together- so surely they discussed it before it happened - and isn&#039;t it the whole point of the show that Big Brother is privvy to each conversation? So what in the hell was Big Brother doing in allowing them to play out their sexual assault - sorry - &quot;sexual misconduct&quot; - and now &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=65963&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gretel Colleen&lt;/a&gt; is out there proclaiming what &quot;GREAT guys&quot; they really are!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the episode, only read the account.  Are you really suprised that she ends up apologising?  If she demonises them, she&#8217;ll become the sport of media for months to come (case in point &#8211; the NRL versus young woman who agreed to an intimate moment with one player and ended up with several members of the team).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually impressed that she had the where withall to say &#8220;That&#8217;s not cool&#8221; &#8211; instead of screaming blue bloody murder &#8211; Come to think of it, shame she didn&#8217;t give him a decent bite to think about.</p>
<p>But here&#8217;s my issue.  The two rock apes played out this scene  together- so surely they discussed it before it happened &#8211; and isn&#8217;t it the whole point of the show that Big Brother is privvy to each conversation? So what in the hell was Big Brother doing in allowing them to play out their sexual assault &#8211; sorry &#8211; &#8220;sexual misconduct&#8221; &#8211; and now <a href="http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=65963" rel="nofollow">Gretel Colleen</a> is out there proclaiming what &#8220;GREAT guys&#8221; they really are!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bahnisch</title>
		<link>http://castironbalcony.media2.org/2006/07/02/ohhhhh-moi-gourd/comment-page-1/#comment-925</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Bahnisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2006 12:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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