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	<title>Comments on: I was going to title this Men Behaving Badly but it doesn&#8217;t even begin to describe it</title>
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		<title>By: Madison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 15:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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There&#039;s no system foolproof enough to defeat a sufficiently great fool</description>
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<p>There&#8217;s no system foolproof enough to defeat a sufficiently great fool</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;I do think people underestimate the effects of relative physical size here, though - if you’re big it’s a lot easier to deal with deadshits confidently. An unfortunate fact of life.&#039;

I agree -- I&#039;d never given this much thought until the Bloke, who is ginormous, said he&#039;d never felt physically threatened by anyone, ever.  It&#039;s not just about it being easier to deal with deadshits, either -- deadshits are too scared of him to p*ss him off in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;I do think people underestimate the effects of relative physical size here, though &#8211; if you’re big it’s a lot easier to deal with deadshits confidently. An unfortunate fact of life.&#8217;</p>
<p>I agree &#8212; I&#8217;d never given this much thought until the Bloke, who is ginormous, said he&#8217;d never felt physically threatened by anyone, ever.  It&#8217;s not just about it being easier to deal with deadshits, either &#8212; deadshits are too scared of him to p*ss him off in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DD, totally off topic, but Derrida Derider has always been my favourite internet moniker. Partly because a member of my family IS a Derrida derider, it&#039;s always been hilarious to me.

Mine&#039;s 15 - I guess yours is roughly the same? I&#039;m not sure how to approach this topic with her. She&#039;s a big strong gel and has attitude to match, so would probably roll her eyes and say &quot;please.&quot; But it&#039;s different when you&#039;re actually in the &quot;WTF?!&quot; zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DD, totally off topic, but Derrida Derider has always been my favourite internet moniker. Partly because a member of my family IS a Derrida derider, it&#8217;s always been hilarious to me.</p>
<p>Mine&#8217;s 15 &#8211; I guess yours is roughly the same? I&#8217;m not sure how to approach this topic with her. She&#8217;s a big strong gel and has attitude to match, so would probably roll her eyes and say &#8220;please.&#8221; But it&#8217;s different when you&#8217;re actually in the &#8220;WTF?!&#8221; zone.</p>
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		<title>By: derrida derider</title>
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		<dc:creator>derrida derider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 07:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately its true - a lot of men are just arseholes.  I blame their fathers. On behalf of my half of the human race I can only apologize.

I forbade my own newly teenage daughter to date &quot;until you&#039;re old enough to have the balls to yell out in a crowded cinema &#039;get your filthy hands off me&#039;&quot;.  Fortunately she&#039;s a pretty assertive young woman, so the interdict didn&#039;t last long (I judged she was old enough when she could stand up to me on this).

I do think people underestimate the effects of relative physical size here, though - if you&#039;re big it&#039;s a lot easier to deal with deadshits confidently.  An unfortunate fact of life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately its true &#8211; a lot of men are just arseholes.  I blame their fathers. On behalf of my half of the human race I can only apologize.</p>
<p>I forbade my own newly teenage daughter to date &#8220;until you&#8217;re old enough to have the balls to yell out in a crowded cinema &#8216;get your filthy hands off me&#8217;&#8221;.  Fortunately she&#8217;s a pretty assertive young woman, so the interdict didn&#8217;t last long (I judged she was old enough when she could stand up to me on this).</p>
<p>I do think people underestimate the effects of relative physical size here, though &#8211; if you&#8217;re big it&#8217;s a lot easier to deal with deadshits confidently.  An unfortunate fact of life.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, did you ever say &quot;Do you want them to fit so that everyone can see you&#039;ve got a small penis?&quot;

Didn&#039;t think so.

I don&#039;t get my personal space invaded much because I&#039;m 5&#039;11 and very bossy.  Doesn&#039;t stop me feeling scared though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, did you ever say &#8220;Do you want them to fit so that everyone can see you&#8217;ve got a small penis?&#8221;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get my personal space invaded much because I&#8217;m 5&#8217;11 and very bossy.  Doesn&#8217;t stop me feeling scared though.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fished you out of the spam trap, Doug. Sorry.

I&#039;m afraid had I got over my freeziness, my scathing reply would have been far less respectable than the taxi driver&#039;s. I take your point about the reverse panic - I&#039;d like to do something to unlearn that. If only to avoid being run down by a bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fished you out of the spam trap, Doug. Sorry.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid had I got over my freeziness, my scathing reply would have been far less respectable than the taxi driver&#8217;s. I take your point about the reverse panic &#8211; I&#8217;d like to do something to unlearn that. If only to avoid being run down by a bus.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 00:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read the comments and surprised that no-one has brought up what is an appropoiate response in this situation?
The high heel may provoke a sharp physical response. A  shouted scathing reply would be best. 
I can&#039;t think of a good one, only-
&quot;I don&#039;t want HIV.&quot;
&quot;I haven&#039;t sharpened my teeth.&quot;
&quot;Lose your virginity somewhere else.&quot;

Any suggstions?

A little test from real life. 

N****** is a 60yo female taxi driver who drives nights.  One night a drunk raised his hand to strike her.
What would you do in this case? She can&#039;t get away she can only defend herself with her voice. Think about it.

She said words to the effect of &quot;That is like hitting your Mother.&quot; That stopped him cold. The perfect reply in a split second. 


On the subject of &quot;Deer in the headlights.&quot; (dith)  This may also be known as reverse panic.  One is overwhealmed by circumstances. If it has a component of learned submissiveness the sooned that goes the better.

Emergency services, police, pilots  and the military practice  responses to emergency situations so that it becomes a reflex. 

Letting creeps get away with this only encourages them.

Douglas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read the comments and surprised that no-one has brought up what is an appropoiate response in this situation?<br />
The high heel may provoke a sharp physical response. A  shouted scathing reply would be best.<br />
I can&#8217;t think of a good one, only-<br />
&#8220;I don&#8217;t want HIV.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;I haven&#8217;t sharpened my teeth.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Lose your virginity somewhere else.&#8221;</p>
<p>Any suggstions?</p>
<p>A little test from real life. </p>
<p>N****** is a 60yo female taxi driver who drives nights.  One night a drunk raised his hand to strike her.<br />
What would you do in this case? She can&#8217;t get away she can only defend herself with her voice. Think about it.</p>
<p>She said words to the effect of &#8220;That is like hitting your Mother.&#8221; That stopped him cold. The perfect reply in a split second. </p>
<p>On the subject of &#8220;Deer in the headlights.&#8221; (dith)  This may also be known as reverse panic.  One is overwhealmed by circumstances. If it has a component of learned submissiveness the sooned that goes the better.</p>
<p>Emergency services, police, pilots  and the military practice  responses to emergency situations so that it becomes a reflex. </p>
<p>Letting creeps get away with this only encourages them.</p>
<p>Douglas</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*Blushes*

I wrote that essay the year after I resigned from academe and plunged blindly into the precarious life of the freelance writer, and it shocks me a bit to re-read it. I&#039;d forgotten how angry I was.

It&#039;s all true, of course. If anything, I pulled some punches, and I completely left out the most egregious and blatant episode of all ... because for anyone who knows me or my erstwhile workplace it&#039;s just too easy to identify the perp. Or mis-identify him, which I would not want to be responsible for either.

(There&#039;s that nice girl again. Sigh.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Blushes*</p>
<p>I wrote that essay the year after I resigned from academe and plunged blindly into the precarious life of the freelance writer, and it shocks me a bit to re-read it. I&#8217;d forgotten how angry I was.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all true, of course. If anything, I pulled some punches, and I completely left out the most egregious and blatant episode of all &#8230; because for anyone who knows me or my erstwhile workplace it&#8217;s just too easy to identify the perp. Or mis-identify him, which I would not want to be responsible for either.</p>
<p>(There&#8217;s that nice girl again. Sigh.)</p>
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		<title>By: Girl on The Avenue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Girl on The Avenue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 13:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes! That&#039;s the article! It&#039;s brilliant!

(Thanks Kate and Helen. I should know this, of course. It&#039;s often difficult to apply theory to personal, nuanced situations)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes! That&#8217;s the article! It&#8217;s brilliant!</p>
<p>(Thanks Kate and Helen. I should know this, of course. It&#8217;s often difficult to apply theory to personal, nuanced situations)</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2007 12:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GoTA, you read my moind. I discovered the article you&#039;re talking about (I think) called &quot;Needing His Signature&quot;, while searching for the shoe-heel quote. 

If you haven&#039;t seen this, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/AHR/archive/Issue-May-1998/goldsworthy2.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read the whole thing&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GoTA, you read my moind. I discovered the article you&#8217;re talking about (I think) called &#8220;Needing His Signature&#8221;, while searching for the shoe-heel quote. </p>
<p>If you haven&#8217;t seen this, <a href="http://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/AHR/archive/Issue-May-1998/goldsworthy2.html" rel="nofollow">read the whole thing</a>.</p>
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