Comments on: Selfish ber-loody women at it again

By: blue milk

blue milk — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 10:17:27 +0000

This is fantastic – a pleasure to read, well done.

By: Rebekka

Rebekka — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:46:08 +0000

Lauredhel, that’s EXACTLY what I thought when I read the word “allow”.

Grrrr. It sums up what’s wrong with the entire medical model of birth.

By: Sing it, sister at Hoyden About Town

Sing it, sister at Hoyden About Town — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 06:09:09 +0000

[...] Read the whole thing at Blogger on the Cast Iron Balcony. [...]

By: Hattie

Hattie — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 23:29:10 +0000

Thanks for visiting my blog, Helen.
This discussion is freaking me out. Of course in my enlightened country (the U.S.)we have no particular benefits for mothers, married or unmarried, so issues of this sort don’t come up.

The poorest segment of our population is children and the richest, the elderly.

By: Helen

Helen — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 12:09:11 +0000

No Su, the actual report wasn’t saying that at all. It was the Mighty Morphin’ Power Media which translated “economists identify spike in delayed (scheduled) births which could possibly cause trouble because it’s swamping the medical resources” to “Greedy mums putting bubs at risk by literally sewing themselves shut and ..”, well, you know. and the wonderful commenters on news.com.au which just kicked the whole thing along.

By: su

su — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:55:11 +0000

I’m (almost) speechless. Delaying a scheduled caesarian or induction to a date closer to term poses no health risks at all. What is the rationale behind this research? Is there any evidence at all that natural labours were artificially delayed? We need another version of “get your rosaries off my ovaries”. “Get your econometrics out of my obstetrics”?

By: lauredhel

lauredhel — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:00:15 +0000

Lauredhel, I’d love to see something by you on this topic when you’re over your domestic relocation, as you are so much more knowledgeable than I am on the minutiae of the health system.

There’s a rough note in my drafts folder, as it happens. I don’t know when I’ll get to fleshing it out, or whether it will contain much more than the comments I’ve already made – but maybe it will

By: marymary

marymary — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 05:07:24 +0000

Also, on wikipedia, (not always absolutely correct!) it says that anywhere between 37 and 43 weeks is considered a full term pregancy. (I’m too scared to write that on the other blog!) So their hysteria is just… just… I’m just lost for words!

By: marymary

marymary — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:49:47 +0000

That was scary, I’d never read any of the comments section on news.com before. Guess I’d better get myself off to a church before even contemplating the idea of children. Although even that may not save me; I suspect I would be considered a socialist or a feminist, so I probably shouldn’t allow my gene’s to be reproduced. I might raise more socialists and feminists who are the undoing of society!! Although, I’m quite confused, because I wouldn’t use the money to buy a plasma tv? Am I permitted to have children or not???!!!

By: CoreEcon » Blog Archive » Reactions on the baby bonus

CoreEcon » Blog Archive » Reactions on the baby bonus — Sat, 10 Nov 2007 04:10:54 +0000

[...] The Common Sense Approach: Smattered through the news.com.au and other comment were lots of statements that reflected exactly the type of things being argued above. I am glad those views exist and that people felt passionate enough to express them as a minority in a much larger on-line crowd. I think they are summed up by this extensive post. This view highlighted the points that we need to debate and investigate — namely, what are the health risks and how is the system really working to allow economics and other stuff to seep in? After all, parents can’t just choose to delay. But what latitude do they have? Is it too much? Does it create risks for others? Having spent the last 18 months or so looking into this, there are many reasons to be concerned. So, aside from the issue of whether the jumps to the baby bonus are bad (of course, they are no good), there is an issue with respect to the operation of the industry that is being exposed here. [...]