Comments on: Religious hijacking of abortion debate in Victoria (yes, totally expected)

By: 5th Down Under Feminists Carnival « HellOnHairyLegs

5th Down Under Feminists Carnival « HellOnHairyLegs — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 01:59:16 +0000

[...] There has been a lot of drama over the proposed bill to legalise abortion in Victoria. Emervents skewers the Tell the Truth Coalition yet again while proposing an amendment of her own to the legislation. Helen notes the religious hijacking of the abortion debate is a reflection of their attempt to hijack our reproductive rights. Keri at This is My Truth Tell Me Yours gives her sympathies to catholic doctors but still expects them to save their patients lives. Lauredhel explores “pro-life” Archbishop Hart’s murderous misogyny. This Bill is quite straightforward on the matter. It means that if you are a doctor or a nurse, and you have a women in front of you who will die in the immediate future unless she has an abortion, you have an obligation to save her life. [...]

By: blue milk

blue milk — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:46:21 +0000

Great post and god how it infuriates me when they always bring the discussion back to late-term abortions. How about spending the bulk of the debate talking about the bulk of abortions?

By: Laura

Laura — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:09:39 +0000

Probably both Pav. Incompetence and agendas go together.

By: kate

kate — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:04:41 +0000

So Graeme Clark, inventor of the bionic ear, is not actually an obsterician/gynecologist? Not really any more qualified than, say, me?

Who’d thunk.

By: Zoe

Zoe — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:46:17 +0000

she would naturally have issues with her biological mother

Who doesn’t! heh

By: Pavlov's Cat

Pavlov's Cat — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:36:34 +0000

“First of all, do you see what they did there? ”

Yes. Disgraceful. I saw this too, and thought of your Immense Gothic Cathedral of WTF.

But WHY OH WHY? I can’t work out whether it’s mere incompetence or whether the journalists have agendas of their own. (One of them is called Shanahan, which can’t be a good sign.)

By: Oz Ozzie

Oz Ozzie — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:52:18 +0000

I admit to being a christian – even a fundamental one. And to being a guy too (in response to comment on the last post). And as a Christian I am interested in the sanctity of life, which for me means, among other things, that I am against war in any circumstances, and I deeply disapprove of abortion (at any gestation, or any reason, and that was before I started watching Ultrasounds from 6 weeks and praying desperately for the life of my unborn children).

But here’s some reasons why it’s not actually christian to fight making abortion legal:
1. Christians should be focusing on making their own actions correct, not forcing other (non-Christian) people to conform to their own rules (Matt 7v3)
2. Christians are commanded to show compassion on others whether they are evil or not (Matt 9v36, Matt 9 v 13)
3. God made it that life consumes life (blood for blood, Gen 9v5). God will demand the accounting. And we shouldn’t do it now (Deu 32v35)

There’s other reasons too – but they aren’t Christian. So remember, next time you hear of some christian group lobbying against abortion: they are betraying their faith.