Comments on: You’re soaking in it.

By: There’s got to be a bingo in there somewhere « Wallaby

There’s got to be a bingo in there somewhere « Wallaby — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:18:11 +0000

[...] Like Helen says, misogyny: you’re soaking in it. [...]

By: fuckpoliteness

fuckpoliteness — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 01:38:58 +0000

Heya Helen, I just wanted to say a personal thanks for this. I read it and immediately sent it to my partner as it’s just really valuable to have these discussions of just how much this shit can get you down on a personal level some days. I kept trying to formulate a comment but I was too sad. The Steak, blowjob and shut the fuck up day…as my partner said ‘Isn’t that every day?’ referring to the way women are seen and treated. And those comments after…I’ve been having discussions with Beppie about how when women are discussed as “being” certain ways that it invisibilises women who don’t fit that mould and who work fucking hard to maintain equality, who value relationships FOR their own sake, who don’t view sex as a commodity to exchange, a ‘gift’ to men in exchange for goods and services…you’re at once invisibilised and defined in extraordinarily crappy terms, terms that do damage and lead to violence, violence which is ignored or excused…it’s hard not to cry until you’re sick.

By: Helen

Helen — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 08:09:35 +0000

No, you don’t sound embittered at all Link!

By: ‘Cause knowledge is power

‘Cause knowledge is power — Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:05:07 +0000

[...] Filed under: Uncategorized — ispower @ 3:04 am This. [...]

By: Caroline

Caroline — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 23:34:07 +0000

Thanks Helen. Yes I know I can be useful and I realise that my comment makes me sound embittered. It is more that I am frustrated when confronted with the fact that feminism disappeared off the radar or was transmogrified into a parody in many men’s views about 20 years ago. I wonder that I’m not becoming ageist, as I have issues with men on either side of my age group. The sexism that was so appalling when I first started working came from a man thirty years my senior and I forgave him his ignorance, for having grown up in less enlightened times. The sexism that appalls me today comes from someone ten years my junior and it is more assertive, more violent and more (cock)sure.

By: I’ve been to the gym, I KNOW the lyrics to ‘Put a Ring on it’ « Fuck Politeness

Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:15:42 +0000

[...] So this level of misogyny…it’s hard to keep on hearing it, to bear it, to see how wildly fucking popular it is, to see more and more evidence of how little women are respected or even seen as fully human, so sometimes when it gets too much I have to kind of blank it out, go numb. For a beautiful explanation of the pain it causes women when they haven’t managed to block it out on a given day, see Helen at Blogger on the Cast Iron Balcony’s post ‘You’re Soaking In It’. But this day the rage induce white noise was getting loud enough to do damage (DISEASE RIDDEN????) so I had to go blank, but then this misquote just tripped me up. She researches so very very little that she can’t even get the main line from a hit pop song right (it’s called GOOGLE, look into it shithead): Sadly, along with Hymowitz, many experts (including Freud himself) blame it on the behaviour of the fairer sex. Case in point: one minute SYFs (Single Young Females) want something casual, a fling, an F-Buddy or a one-night stand because, heck, we’re modern women who can have sex without emotional connection or a ring on our fingers. And the next minute, we find ourselves asking that very same one-night stand what he thinks about marriage, when he envisions himself having kids and how he feels about raising a family in the suburbs versus the city. [...]

By: Helen

Helen — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 10:23:18 +0000

Link – but you’re a useful person who knows how to look after horses. Don’t your employers respect your skillz? I know the feeling though, I am working with a bunch of younger men and although I have a lot of fun, I cringe inwardly sometimes at how I’m no longer in the younger category. That seemed to creep up quite quickly.!

By: Caroline

Caroline — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:52:28 +0000

. . . compared to them.

By: Caroline

Caroline — Wed, 04 Mar 2009 09:49:50 +0000

I landed in this life in 1964 at which time, I had a fighting chance. In 1982 I entered the ‘real’ world of employment, mostly–usually for men. Overnight it seems I was presented with attitudes and prejudice such as I never knew existed.

Now, my fighting chance lies in a parlous state. Why? Because I am a woman and now, an older woman, who is ‘losing’ her looks. (“Lookie, lookie lookie’s. Where are you?”) I am now officially invisible. Younger men regard me with a mixture of fear horror and disdain, usually in that order. Just who the hell do I think I am? (or was)

By: The Tenth Down Under Feminists’ Carnival « Ideologically Impure

The Tenth Down Under Feminists’ Carnival « Ideologically Impure — Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:47:31 +0000

[...] Of course, it ain’t all just candy and men screaming GET THEE TO A NUNNERY FOUL HARLOT. There’s also the low-level constant grind of sexism that keeps needling at us all every. Single. Day. Of our lives. Blogger on the Cast Iron Balcony illustrates this brilliantly in You’re soaking in it. [...]